++ text extracted from the mag "Grapevine #3" by LSD (08/1991) ++ ******************** WELCOME TO >>GRAPEVINE<< ISSUE THREE AUGUST 91 ******************** PRESS THE FOLLOWING: RMB - NEXT PAGE LMB - PREVIOUS PAGE BOTH - QUIT x ************ * * * >>LSD<< * * * ************ THE CREDITS FOR THIS PRODUCTION GO TO THE FOLLOWING a>>KIPPERS<>LSD<< * * * ************ x ******************** CODING BY a>>MONTY PYTHON<>WATCHMAN<>SPIRIT<>THE SILENTS<>PARASITE<>>SPIRIT<<>SINED DELIRIUM<>ECHO<>MOZ<>MORSECODE<>SCAVENGER<>THE SPIRIT<>TRADE LINE<>THE SPIRIT<>GIG<< ON LINE 24 HOURS SPEEDS UP TO 19200 >>>> x AND COMING SOON (WAITING FOR LINE) a>>THE POOL<>MORSECODE<>>> x AND DON'T FORGET a>>SATELLITE CITY<>DESTINY<>>> x WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP A EUROPEAN BRANCH AND A EUROPEAN BOARD FULL DETAILS WILL BE GIVEN IN THE NEXT ISSUE ******************** LOOK OUT FOR A NEW MUSIC DISK COMING SOON FROM LSD: a>>DON'T PANIC<>UNITY<>SLIPSTREAM<>WIZZCAT UK<>ARCHAOS<>ARGON UK<>FLASH PROD. UK<>LSD<>SLIPSTREAM<>WIZZCAT UK<>>> x MAGIC MUSHROOM 21 STANLEY STREET MORECAMBE LANCASHIRE LA3 1UP TEL:(0524) 425607 NO FAKED STAMPS! LOOK OUT FOR A FUTURE UNITY DEMO DISK COMING SOON FEATURING PRODUCTIONS FROM ALL MEMBER GROUPS x ******************** UNITY IS STARTING A UK (AND 'ONLY' UK) CHART. VOTES WILL ONLY BE COUNTED FOR UK PRODUCTIONS, GROUPS ETC. IF YOU VOTE FOR AN INTERNATIONAL GROUP REMEMBER YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE ABILITIES OF THE UK BRANCH ONLY >>>> x IT WILL HAVE SEVERAL CATEGORIES AND THE RESULTS WILL BE PRINTED EACH MONTH IN GRAPEVINE VOTING FORMS WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON FROM UNITY (AND HOPEFULLY OTHER) GROUPS THE CHARTS WILL INCLUDE THE CATEGORIES ON THE NEXT PAGE: >>>> x BEST SWAPPER BEST CODER BEST MUSICIAN BEST ARTIST BEST UK BBS BEST GROUP BEST COMPILATIONS BEST CURRENT DEMO BEST CURRENT INTRO MOST UNPOPULAR GUY BEST GAME WORST GAME BEST UTILITY >>>> x AT THE END OF EACH YEAR THE OVERALL WINNERS IN EACH CATEGORY WILL RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE (AND HOPEFULLY A PRIZE) ALSO, FOR EACH VOTING FORM YOU SEND IN (ONLY 1 FORM A MONTH PER PERSON!) YOU WILL GET 1 FREE RAFFLE ENTRY. >>>> x AT THE END OF THE YEAR A DRAW WILL BE HELD AND THE WINNER WILL RECEIVE A SUITABLE PRIZE VOTES SHOULD BE SENT TO: MANDRAKE/ARGON UK 27 THORNTON ROAD MORECAMBE LANCS LA4 5DD ******************** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ LSD ARE NOW PRINTING BUSINESS CARDS USING AN APPLE MAC 2 AND LASER PRINTER. PRICE: 100 BUSINESS CARDS $7.00 (INC P AND P) DISCOUNT FOR BULK OR GROUP ORDERS CONTACT PARASITE OF LSD @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x ******************** THE PIECE OF NEWS GIVEN ON THE NEXT FEW PAGES WAS SENT TO US BY SEPULTURA WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BEFORE PRINTING ANY NEWS OF THIS NATURE WE MUST BE GIVEN PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT AND IN THIS CASE WE WERE >>>> x WE CAREFULLY EXAMINED THE EVIDENCE SENT INCLUDING A DISK (COMPLETE WITH READ ERROR) OF SOURCE CODE, A LETTER OF APOLOGY GIVING FULL ADMISSION OF GUILT AND A DETAILED LETTER EXPLAINING THE FULL STORY >>>> x CERTAINLY MANY OF THE ROUTINES IN THE DEMO WERE IDENTICAL TO THE SOURCE WE WERE SENT ANYWAY, HERE COMES CONDENSED VERSIONS OF BOTH LETTERS WE HAVE KEPT THE LETTERS AND SOURCE IF ANYONE HAS REASON TO CONTEST THIS WE WILL FIND A WAY FOR YOU TO SEE THEM >>>> x *SEPULTURA'S LETTER* TAS STOLE NUMEROUS ROUTINES FROM US AND MADE A DEMO CALLED "EGO TRIP" THE CODE WAS DONE BY OUR MATE WHEN HE WAS IN ARENA, YOU MAY KNOW HIM AS WILD THING OF CRYPTIC, HE NOW CODES FOR US (AS MFM) AND ARCHAOS, >>>> x ENCLOSED IS HIS SOURCE WITH ALL THE ROUTINES THAT TAS STOLE AND A LETTER OF ADMISSION FROM BRICK WHO PASSED THE SOURCE ON TO HIM. WHEN WE PHONED TAS HE DENIED IT YET COULDN'T EXPLAIN HOW THE ROUTINES WORKED COULD YOU PRINT THIS IN GRAPEVINE FOR US? >>>> x CODE THIEVES SHOULD BE SHOWN UP FOR THE SHITBAGS THEY ARE. I AM NOT SLAGGING CYRUS, JUST TAS. MOST OF MFM'S ROUTINES HAVE NEVER BEEN USED, SOME ARE ORIGINAL IDEAS BUT CAN'T BE USED NOW AS TAS HAS USED THEM AND TAKEN THE CREDIT. >>>> x EVEN THE SCROLL ROUTINES WERE STOLEN, TAS NEVER EVEN CHANGED THE COLOURS, FONTS OR GFX. CYRUS SPLIT UP ON THURSDAY BY THE WAY! SIGNED MFD/SEPULTURA NOW COMES THE LETTER FROM BRICK (EX CYRUS) TO SEPULTURA >>>> x TELL MFM THAT I AM PROFOUNDLY SORRY ABOUT HIS SOURCE BEING USED. THIS IS TAS'S FAULT 100%, THE SOURCE WAS GIVEN TO HIM IN GOOD FAITH AND HE >WAS< TOLD NOT TO USE a>ANY< OF ITa ALAS, IT HAS BEEN DONE AND IF I COULD I WOULD REVERSE IT! >>>> x WELL, IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN I CAN ASSURE YOU SIGNED BRICK/NO GROUP NOTE: THESE LETTERS HAVE BEEN EDITED AS THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN UP TOO MANY PAGES. WE HAVE TRIED TO CUT THEM DOWN TO JUST THE RELEVANT INFORMATION >>>> x IN OUR OPINION THE CREDIT FOR MANY OF THE ROUTINES IN THE DEMO SHOULD GO TO MFM OF SEPULTURA NOT TAS EX-CYRUS TAS EVEN ADVERTISES FOR CODE SWAPPING IN THE EGO TRIP DEMO IT IS A SHAME WE HAVE TO REPORT SUCH A THING AS THIS, AS WE >WERE< PLEASED TO >>>> x SEE A DEMO OF THIS QUALITY PRODUCED INSIDE THE UK IF TAS WOULD LIKE TO REPLY, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PRINT HIS ANSWER NEXT ISSUE LET THIS BE A LESSON TO US ALL. IF MFM'S SOURCE HAD NOT BEEN SENT TO CYRUS THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED ******************** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ SPIRIT WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT ANY AMIGA MUSICIANS WISHING TO EXCHANGE SAMPLES ETC WRITE TO:- 2 MARTIN HALL COTT. MARTIN LANE BAWTRY DONCASTER S. YORKSHIRE MUSICIANS ONLY!!! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x ******************** MAGNETIC FIELDS HAVE SPLIT UP. NUMBER FIVE HAS FORMED A NEW GROUP CALLED:- a>>DIGITAL<>MASSIVE<>>> x COSY LEFT DIGITAL AFTER TWO DAYS TO JOIN ANARCHY THE PARTY PLANNED BY MF IS STILL GOING AHEAD, NOW RUN BY DIGITAL TICKETS ARE NOW ON SALE AND ARE AVAILABLE FROM COSY OF ANARCHY PRICE $3 EACH PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE ONLY 200 TICKETS ******************** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ HANISSIS FIVE WANT NEW CODERS ALSO ELITE MAILTRADERS CONTACT SHOCKWAVE AT 44 HEOL-Y-GWRGAN MARGAM PORT TALBOT WEST GLAMORGAN SA13 2DG @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x COBRA HAS LEFT RARE AND JOINED MASSIVE ****** MATRIX AND HAWK HAVE LEFT CRACK AND JOINED FLASH PRODUCTION UK ****** THE FREELANCE ART GROUP PAINTBOX (EX-CYRUS) HAVE JOINED CRACK ****** PARASITE OF LSD IS FINALLY DIVORCED (YIPPEE!!!) x ******************** BAD NEWS FOR ALL PARASITES CONTACTS WHO HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THE SPECCY AND C64 TAPES IN THEIR JIFFIES, MONTY PYTHON HAS JUST GIVEN HIM ANOTHER 200 TO GET RID OF!!! ******************** CHECK OUT PAGE 90 OF THE JUNE ISSUE OF AMIGA FUN FOR A REVIEW OF LSD SUPREME MUSIC 2!!! x ****** QUESTAR (EX MF) HAS JOINED PHANTASY ****** SEPULTURA HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS: JOBY AND NOVA ****** ALL THE MEMBERS OF INFINITY WHO JOINED SEPULTURA HAVE NOW LEFT, SOME HAVE FORMED A NEW GROUP CALLED >>SHIELD<< ****** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ RED DEVIL, LEADER OF WIZZCATS UK DIVISION WANTS ELITE CONTACTS FROM OUTSIDE THE UK 47 MOXLEY ROAD DARLASTON WEST MIDLANDS WS10 7RE ENGLAND DISKS=REPLY NO TIME WASTERS PLEASE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x WE REPORTED IN ISSUE #1 THAT RIDE OF ANTHROX HAD TAKEN OVER ALL OF TURMOILS (EX SCOOPEX UK) CONTACTS RIDE HAS INFORMED US THAT HE ONLY TOOK ON 3 OF THE 617 CONTACTS. IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT TURMOIL TOLD US THIS SO HE COULD KEEP A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLES DISKS (APPRX 2000)!! x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ CYLON WANTS CONTACTS FOR a>>>LEGAL<<>KRYPTIC<< ****** A NEW UK GROUP IS BORN a>>THE LUNATICS<BATTLETECH AMIGA>TRECKER<< KEEP US INFORMED!! ******************** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ PLEASE NOTE IN THE LAST ISSUE WE PRINTED THE WRONG NUMBER FOR: GRAYZOR OF SLIPSTREAM CONTACT HIM ON: WALTHAMSTOW 509 9934 FOR COOL MAIL TRADING @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x ****** NOVA HAS LEFT SEPULTURA AND JOINED HANISSIS FIVE ****** SHOCKWAVE OF HANISSIS FIVE IS ALSO IN PAINTBOX ****** JAZZCAT HAS LEFT WIZZCAT ****** RUMOURS ABOUT COSY GETTING BUSTED ARE NOT TRUE ****** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ HOBBIT OF MAVERICKS UK WANTS MORE COOL CONTACTS WRITE TO: (NO NAME) 195 OLD ROAD CHESTERFIELD DERBYSHIRE S40 3QH @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x ****** COSY IS NO LONGER CO-SYSOP OF GHOST BBS ****** RECOIL AND DARKMAN LEFT CRACK AND JOINED FLASH PROD UK FOR ONE DAY THEN REJOINED CRACK!! ****** BOTH THE SLIPSTREAM BOARDS ADVERTISED IN THEIR RECENT BBS INTRO ARE NOW DEAD ****** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ PAINTBOX, THE FIVE ARTISTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ART IN a>>EGO-TRIP<>>> x DAGGER (EX ABSOLUTE ZERO) AND PSYCHO HAVE JOINED ARGON UK SHADOW AND GAMMA HAVE LEFT ARGON UK AND JOINED FLASH PRODUCTION UK (AREN'T ARGON UK A BUSY BUNCH OF GEEZERS!!!!) ******************** CYRUS HAVE SPLIT UP AND TAS HAS JOINED CRACK x ******************** AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THIS MONTHS PIECE OF TRIVIA, BROUGHT TO YOU BY TORCH OF IPEC ELITE: REDIVIDER IS THE LONGEST PALINDROME IN THE ENGLISH DICTIONARY A PALINDROME IS A WORD WHICH IS THE SAME SPELT BACKWARDS ******************** x ******************** HERE IS AN AMUSING LITTLE STORY, WE WOULD LIKE MORE LIKE THIS IF ANYONE HAS ANY... TNC OF BATTLETECH UK RECENTLY GOT AN ORIGINAL CUT OF OPPORTUNITIES BY THE PETSHOP BOYS. HOWEVER, ON THE COVER SOMEONE HAD WRITTEN "CHRISTINE" >>>> x IN SILVER MARKER TNC DECIDED TO RID HIS RECORD OF THE GRAFFITI WITH A THICK BLACK MARKER WHILE SCRIBBLING THIS OUT A FRIEND NOTICED SOME OTHER WRITING IN GOLD THIS MESSAGE SAID "NEIL TENNANT" WHICH ANY PETSHOP BOYS FAN WILL TELL YOU IS THE >>>> x SINGER. IT THEN OCCURRED TO HIM THAT THE FIRST MESSAGE WASN'T "CHRISTINE" BUT "CHRIS LOWE" THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE GROUP! IT APPEARS THIS WAS A SINGLE AUTOGRAPHED BY THE PETSHOP BOYS!!! (SEND YOUR SILLY SHORT STORIES TO PARASITE) x TORCH OF IPEC ELITE HAS >>NEVER<< BEEN ARRESTED FOR PARADING THROUGH STOKE TOWN CENTRE WEARING LITTLE MORE THAN A LEOPARDSKIN THONG AND A FLOPPY HAT, IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN A VICIOUS RUMOUR PUT ABOUT BY LIARS!!! ******************** SCRAB AND SOUL (EX CYRUS) HAVE JOINED HANISSIS FIVE x ******************** LSD ARE THINKING ABOUT UPGRADING GRAPEVINE TO A DISK MAGAZINE AND HOPING THAT >>ALL<< UNITY GROUPS AND YOU WILL SUPPORT IT AS A MAGAZINE GRAPEVINE WILL STILL FEATURE THE EXCELLENT MUSIC AND GFX THAT IT DOES NOW >>>> x PLEASE LET US KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS, DO YOU WANT GRAPEVINE TO REMAIN IN THE CURRENT FORMAT OR TO BECOME A FULL MAGAZINE ? WRITE TO PARASITE WITH YOUR OPINIONS NOW!!! IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND US AN ARTICLE FOR INCLUSION IN IT >>>> x THEN SEND IT TO PARASITE (ON DISK) AND YOUR YOUR DISK WILL BE RETURNED WITH THE ISSUE CONTAINING YOUR ARTICLE ON IT ARTICLES CAN BE ABOUT ANYTHING OF INTEREST TO OTHER READERS (REVIEWS, NEWS, JOKES ETC) ******************** x @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ LSD ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR QUALITY CODERS, MUSICIANS, GFX, ETC IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND DEDICATED TO QUALITY PRODUCTIONS CONTACT PARASITE WITH SOME SAMPLES OF YOUR WORK WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE MAIL SWAPPERS OR COMPILERS @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ x ******************** THANKS GO TO ALL THE GUYS THAT SENT NEWS FOR GRAPEVINE SPECIAL THANKS TO MAGIC MUSHROOM WHO HELPED COLLECT THE NEWS FOR THIS ISSUE REMEMBER, GRAPEVINES FUTURE RELIES ON YOUR NEWS AND SUPPORT!!! ******************** x IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT LSD FOR SWAPPING OR MEMBERSHIP ETC THEN WRITE TO:- PARASITE (HQ) 18 BROCKLESBY CLOSE GAINSBOROUGH LINCS DN21 1TT OR CONTACT ONE OF OUR SWAPPERS ON THE NEXT PAGE NO FAKED STAMPS! x ****** POD 69 WOODSEATS ROAD WOODSEATS SHEFFIELD S8 0PH TEL: (0742) 554063 ****** PAW TEL: (0642) 490591 ****** SIDEWINDER TEL: (0427) 611584 ****** MORSECODE TEL:051 531 7969 ****** x NEXT FOLLOWS THE COMPLETE LSD MEMBERS LIST. IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER **DESTINY** SYSOP **DIGGER** MUSICIAN **ECHO** MUSICIAN/TECHNICIAN **MAXIMAN** CODER/DICKHEAD x **MONTY PYTHON** CODER **MORSECODE** MODEM/MAIL TRADER **MOZ** ARTIST **MUB** MUSICIAN **ORCRIST** CODER x **PARASITE** MANAGER/MAIL TRADER **PAW** MODEM/MAIL TRADER **POD** MAIL TRADER **SCAVENGER** MODEM TRADER **SHAGRATT** CODER x **SIDEWINDER** DOC'S/MAIL TRADER **THE SPIRIT** SYSOP **VOODOO CHILD** CODER **WATCHMAN** ARTIST AND THAT'S THE LOT! x &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& THIS IS THE END OF GRAPEVINE #3 ISSUE #4 DUE AT THE END OF AUGUST, AND WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR BBS'S 2 DAYS BEFORE IT IS SPREAD BY SNAIL MAIL &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& xx xx